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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Matthias & Roman,<br>
<br>
I create a nodes- and elements-list like this:<br>
# nodes:<br>
N1 0,0,0<br>
N2 0,1,0<br>
N3 1,0,0<br>
N4 0,0,1<br>
# elements, which describe triangles:<br>
E1 1,2,3<br>
E2 2,3,4<br>
<br>
So I do have double edges (here: between node 2+3). Didn't now
that this is a problem for gmsh, sorry.<br>
<br>
I will try Romans solution asap and give you a feedback.<br>
Thank you both!<br>
<br>
Steffen<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 12.03.2014 09:59, schrieb Zenker, Dr. Matthias:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Steffen,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">I am not totally sure from what you wrote that
there are really no duplicated nodes. In gmsh, you need to
define the surfaces in a way that neighbouring
surfaces/facets with a common border use the _<i>same</i>_
nodes to define the border. I could not see from your file
if there are duplicated nodes, and would propose that you
make sure that there are really no such duplications.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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lang="EN-US">If the meshing still fails, then this is a
question for the real gurus (Christophe?).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"> Roman Fratczak
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:fratczakroman@o2.pl">mailto:fratczakroman@o2.pl</a>]
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Mittwoch, 12. März 2014 09:51<br>
<b>An:</b> Steffen Becker<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gmsh@geuz.org">gmsh@geuz.org</a><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Gmsh] Error : Self intersecting
surface mesh, computing intersections (this could take
a while)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Steffen,<br>
<br>
No it is more clear. If you are working with cloud of
point, then you may use Meshlab for surface regeneration.
There are many software that are able to handle in a
resonable way the cloud of points (like rhino3D + resurf,
other). But these are rather commercial.<br>
<br>
From the other side - try to do the simplest thing:<br>
<br>
Adjust your python script for surface creation in order to
save not as PLY but as GMSH "geo" file using points and
lines<br>
<br>
Point(1)={0,0,0} ;<br>
Point(2)={0,1,0} ;<br>
...<br>
<br>
Line(1) = {1,2};<br>
..<br>
and.. Line Loop & Surface -> Volume ..<br>
<br>
Then you will get a volume defined by geometric entities.
In this case is shoul be easier to create a better mesh on
surface and then on whole volume.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Roman<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
W dniu 11.03.2014 17:59, Steffen Becker pisze:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
<br>
@ Roman:<br>
some more details:<br>
I have a point cloud given and generate the surface mesh
by myself (with python). I don't know a good algorithm
to create a volume mesh out of this surface mesh -
that's why I use gmsh for this task.<br>
I also checked my surface mesh for double vertexes but I
didn't find any. What do you mean with "double egdes"?
Isn't there always a "double edge", because two
neighbour facets always have one same edge?!<br>
<br>
I will send you a .step or .iges file as soon as I
figured out how to handle the "No OpenCASCADE model
found" error.<br>
<br>
I'm appending the other mailing history (with Matthias)
to this mail - sorry for that "double mailing", I just
forgot one time to "reply to all" -.-<br>
Anyone else has an idea why the meshing fails?<br>
<br>
Regards and thank you a lot,<br>
Steffen<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>Hi Steffen,<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>I don't see either why the meshing fails, sorry.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Matthias<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Von: Steffen Becker [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de">mailto:steffenbecker87@yahoo.de</a>]<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. März 2014 14:42<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>An: Zenker, Dr. Matthias<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gmsh@geuz.org">gmsh@geuz.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Betreff: Re: [Gmsh] Error : Self intersecting surface mesh, computing<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>intersections (this could take a while)<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Oh I'm really sorry, here is the file.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>In addition I sent you also the intersect.pos. I don't understand why exactly<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>these surfaces are problematic and the "neighbour surfaces"<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>aren't - although they have the same geometry =/<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Am 11.03.2014 12:07, schrieb Zenker, Dr. Matthias:<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Hi Steffen,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>if you don't provide the myfile.ply2, we cannot see your geometry...<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> You can visualize intersect.pos by merging it to your geometry.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>HTH,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Matthias<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am 11.03.2014 14:33, schrieb Roman
Fratczak:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<br>
<br>
It is possible, that you will get your geometry in
other format? <br>
In your "ply" there is already a surface mesh given.
Try maybe use STEP, IGES,... as input- then it is
easer to recalculate the surface mesh.<br>
<br>
In case of need of usage of "a dead mesh" - maybe try
first to remesh it (i.e. in blender with modification
Remesh) and/or clean it (removing double vertexes and
edges).<br>
<br>
regards<br>
Roman<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
W dniu 11.03.2014 12:13, Steffen Becker pisze:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<br>
<br>
in the appendix you find my model.<br>
Thanks for help!!<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Steffen<br>
<br>
Am 11.03.2014 11:47, schrieb Roman Fratczak:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Steffen,<br>
<br>
Yes. You can try to the first Optimize quality of
tetra, or all of them (just try).<br>
<br>
I don't know how your model looks like. If the
elements on the surface are too big, then the
solid elements (probably tetragonal) may be with
intersecting edges or faces. Therefore the
reducing size of element may help (especially on
the surfaces).<br>
<br>
Or- just share your model (ply) -in order to be
more precise.<br>
<br>
regards<br>
Roman<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
W dniu 10.03.2014 18:06, Steffen Becker pisze:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Roman,<br>
when you say "enable option: optimize", you
mean" Tools -> Options -> Mesh ->
Advanced -> Optimize quality of tetrahedra,
Optimize quality of tetrahedra with Netgen,
Optimize high order meshes (experimental)" ?<br>
And why is reducing element size important? In
my case it is important that the object has such
"90 degree corners".<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Steffen<br>
<br>
Am 10.03.2014 16:55, schrieb Roman Fratczak:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Steffen,<br>
<br>
If your volume is OK (is really a closed one)
- try to:<br>
<br>
1. Reduce element size (especially in a curved
shapes)<br>
2. Enable option "Optimize" - in mesh options
<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Roman<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
W dniu 10.03.2014 16:41, Steffen Becker pisze:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello everyone, <br>
<br>
I'm a gmsh beginner and I want to create a 3D
volume mesh out of a given surface-mesh but I
got the error message as seen in the subject.
You find my .geo file in the appendix.
<br>
Can anyone tell me what I have to do to create
a 3D mesh? I even can't figure out where the
intersection are located (don't know how to
read the intersect.pos).
<br>
Sorry for my poor english. <br>
<br>
Regards, <br>
Steffen <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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